Did Augustine Corrupt The Church With Gnostic Doctrine? Beyond Augustine Documentary - Jesse Morrell
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This video is a chapter out of Jesse Morrell's book, "The Natural Ability of Man: A Study on Free Will & Human Nature." Buy it here: http://biblicaltruthresources.wordpress.com/books/theology-books/ SUBSCRIBE: http://www.youtube.com/subscription_center?add_user=bibletheology Beyond Augustine is a church history and theological documentary that examines the free will debate in light of the Early Church and the Gnostics. Did Augustine corrupt the church with Manichean or Gnostic doctrine? Is Calvinism or Reformed Theology really orthodox and historic Christianity, as Calvinists claim? Or are the Calvinists and Augustinians the spiritual descendants of the Gnostics and Manicheans? Were the Pelagians really the heretics in their free will debate with Augustine? These are the type of controversial questions Jesse Morrell examines in this documentary. www.OpenAirOutreach.com
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Calvinism is a heresy, this cult was created by John Calvin who murdered 40 people including Michael Servetus, and had them burned at the stake for their views. John Calvin also taught Augustines faulty theology saturated with Manichaeism like predestination, original sin, infant baptism while claiming to believe in sola scriptura LOL.
Pelagius believed man has total freewill therefore we don't need God to be saved, so Augustine taught the total opposite heresy and said man has no freewill, and we are totally dependent on God. Pelagius and Augustine are both opposite extremes. The correct view is God offers us grace and man has FREEWILL to choose if he accepts it, or not. Case closed. -
i did NOT understand that we could not be justified by CHRIST. I might have misunderstood the video, but I thought it was stating *we have the ability to sin, and we have the ability to be holy... its a choice! Christ Forgives us our sins, but we are still to strive to NOT sin, if we die without getting forgiveness of our sin, they we get hell fire, Im not sure , but that is what most modern day protestant churches teach... i thought.
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excellent ty
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Very well done, citing sources and making a great presentation coming in under one hour time this is one of the best documentaries on this very important subject.
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Calvinist repent!
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The early church also believed in the sin nature of man and in man's freewill
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We are free to do whatever God knows we will do according to our utterly depraved nature. It's not either God's declaration of total depravity among every child of Adam or free will. Christians affirm both the sinner's freedom to do evil according to God's condemnation and man's totally depraved nature continually and freely choosing wickedness.
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'All of humanity, Jew and Gentile alike, are under the power of sin.' (Romans 3:9) 'No one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.' (1 Cor 12:4) The Holy Spirit liberates the human will so that we can put our faith in Christ. Of course, on a natural level, we can choose whether or not we choose to indulge sinful impulses.
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No, you're corrupting the church with a simplistic American version of Christianity with man's so called free will being divine.
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This whole issue has been a major distraction and an agent of division in the church for years. I think Calvinism is nothing more than "over thinking" scriptures and coming up with something that isn't there.
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Well put together. Wish I had known this years ago. Thank you very much for sharing truth! I attended a Bible College in my youth, was taught Augustine and Luther. It never added up then. I thought I was a Christian, I thought I knew Christ. 7 years ago, a true Man of God taught truth. I found out the Bible says over and over and over again we have a free will. A choice to obey or disobey. I found out that I must die to the flesh and fleshly desires daily, only by willingly submitting to Christ every day. For Samuel told King Saul, obedience is better than sacrifice. When the psalmist said he would set no evil thing before his eyes, it was a choice. Christ said that those that loved him would obey him. Those that love Christ will as Christ said, take up their cross daily and follow him. It is a choice, a free will. He would not have said that all liars would go to hell if it was not a choice. He would not have said that all adulterers would go to hell if is was not a choice. For Christ went further in is preaching to say that to look upon a woman with lust in your heart made you adulterer. If thoughts and intents of the heart are judged then it is a choice. If hating a person is the same as murder, it is a choice. When we were told to by Paul to bring every thought captive into the obedience of Christ, then it is a choice and a free will. Thank you Jesse and stay strong and steadfast. The Bible declares over and over that we would be hated of all men. Set your face like a flint. Few want to hear the real, gospel truth of the Bible, but there are a few of us. It has been a very lonely walk, but I wouldn't change a thing. Such joy and intimacy with Christ, I do not need the false fellowship of others.
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and this is what catholicism was all about.. .gnosticism. this early church has a name for those who study
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Somebody should tell Americans that there is no free will in English pronouncement.. It's 'AugUSTine
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Jesse, you are still a young man. Keep studying.
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I do not see where the doctrine of original sin is contradictory of free will. Original sin is a result of the fall. But our free will is intact. We can choose to do good or evil, or to chose God or not choose God.
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It seems this creates a false dichotomy. It pits "free will" against a "sin nature," but this is not a natural antithesis. Free will should be contrasted with determinism. A sin nature is perfectly compatible with a free will—but one that is naturally hampered or suppressed without grace. This mistake of Pelagianism—as commonly understood—is that free will is essentially all that it takes to do right. This denies the grace of God, no matter how fervently it insists it doesn't. And it denies the grace of God because it denies the need for the grace of God—if choice is all that it takes, there is no need for much more, if anything. Then "grace" simply becomes, not given to the unworthy, but the basic ability given to the innocent. Nobody thinks that having handcuffs on takes away their free will, even though they can no longer wave their arms. Taking away possibilities does not take away a causal agent choosing among all possiblities; and original sin is like handcuffs. Indeed the Bible compares it to the "strong man that guards his goods" which needs one stronger to come—that stronger one is not our free will overcoming the power of sin, and snapping those cuffs off. That stronger one is Jesus Christ himself, who broke the power of sin. So in reality the truth is in between Pelagianism and Calvinism—and falls under the common label Classical Arminianism.
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I loved your use of quotes. I found this video to be convincing. Good work.
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God forgive us for believing a doctrine as evil as Calvinism!! Beware of those who come as the light and pervert the pure gospel of Jesus Christ and change the Bible to promote sin and utter blasphemy upon the Righteous God!! REPENT!
Does that mean those who choose good are right with God? Not at all. If a person ignores God, if a person does not trust God, how can they be right with God? They can't. But if a person does good, and they truly love good, they will know they are far from perfect and in need of forgiveness. Such a person will come into the light.
We live in dark times. We need the light of the world. Who is the light of the world? Jesus is.
That is what the Bible teaches; and there are hundreds of verses to support the view. Well done Jesse.