Divorce And Remarriage ❃John Piper❃

wow...I totally disagree with his teachings on the 2nd remarriage that is illegal in God's eyes. ....his points are invalid. He will never go to a couple and tell them they should divorce because he will lose his congregation.

Then we must question did God join together every so called marriage? WEell did he? I think not my friend.Who does God join together anyhow? Every man who marries a woman? I think not.

I hate my life! I want to die!

“"It was said, 'WHOEVER SENDS HIS WIFE AWAY, LET HIM GIVE HER A CERTIFICATE OF DIVORCE '; but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the reason of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5:31-32‬ ‭NASB‬‬
http://bible.com/100/mat.5.31-32.nasb

I believe it's important to know all of what Jesus says about any subject and not only bits and pieces. Jesus clearly doesn't want anyone to divorce and God hates divorce, but Jesus also says "except for the reason of unchastity" or unfaithfulness. From what I understand the party who was cheated on is the innocent party and is allowed to divorce. Why? Because our hearts can be hard.
“Jesus replied, "Moses allowed you to divorce your wives because your hearts are unyielding. But it wasn’t that way from the beginning. I say to you that whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery."”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭19:8-9‬ ‭CEB‬‬
http://bible.com/37/mat.19.8-9.ceb

Sexual unfaithfulness allows divorce although I'm sure Jesus would want the innocent party to forgive and the guilty party to stop and repent so the marriage could continue. It's important to tell the entirety of what is said.

I've never been married. and there are alot of divorced women. so to stay safe, wrong or right, I keep hearing different answers. I'm never getting married.

this brings up a huge sorrow loss tragedy disappointment anger regret guilt few thing are more painful then divorce it cut to the depth of personhood like no other relational gas it is more emotionally heart wrenching than the death of a spouse death .....death is usually is clean pain and divorce is usually dirty pain in another words the enormous loss of a spouse in death is compounded in divorce by the ugliness of sin and the moral outrage and the sense of being wrong is often years in the coming and long year in the settlement and the adjustment the the upheaval of life across cross the board is immeasurable the sense of failure and guilt and fear torture the soul the psalmist writes about soaking his pillow with tear night after night many people who have walked throung divorce would know exactly what he mean.....

I'm afraid his teaching isn't biblical here. The "new marriage" (when your spouse hasn't died) isn't a true marriage, but an adulterous affair, and one must repent from adultery... Otherwise it would be the same as teaching that once you commit a certain sin for the first time it's not ok, but if you continue commiting the act to glorify Christ (!) the best and deepest way it is possible for you in that special situation, then it's ok to continue doing the act. Like, if you do sin well then it stops being a sin???

While in the beginning God's pattern for marriage was that it would be permanent but then sin entered the world and as we go into the old testament and even Jesus quoted that in the beginning it was God's design that it would be permanent but because of man's heart hardening people did get divorced. I am familiar with all the NT passages myself being a pastor of a church for many years and a Christian of 50 years this teacher does misquote some things e.g 1 Corinthians 7 where Paul has been asked a simple question which was asked by new Christians. They asked Paul if it was still ok to be married to an unbeliever or would God now want them to separate. Paul said no stay with it for the reasons that he explained. Sadly many preachers use this passage as an answer for all types of marriage and divorce situations but it can not be used in such a way. Here is not the time for a big teaching but nearly every video I watch on this teaching many even go on to say that if you got married again then you are an adulterer and the marriage should cease. Jesus was asked if a man can put away his wife for "any" reason, any being an important word here where Jesus goes on to refer to God's original intention before sin. Jesus said that adultery would allow a man or woman to divorce. We see King David commit adultery and God forgives him and we see many Christians divorce because sometimes people just don't get on with each other and the marriage fails. When two Christians separate it is a sinful deed just like any sin being no more or less than any sinful deed. When we are saved our sinful nature is changed and we have a new nature but we are still going to do at times a sinful deed and miss the mark because we are still in the flesh. God knows this and the bible says that when we miss the mark that God is faithful and just to forgive our sin and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. This is the one truth that ALL these preachers fail to comfort the saints with that God forgives and when he does we are free to move on and marry again. Many preachers just make these laws and many now live confused about what God thinks and many left violent marriages or marriages that were so horrific that they could not stay. Does God then punish you for the rest of your life and make you live alone when he knows that he meets every human need through your husband or wife. No, no ,no, God is a God who forgives and allows us to move on but many say no he doesn't forgive divorce. Well then God doesn't forgive any sinful deed then. No God forgives and if you are reading this looking for answers because you are remarried or divorced know that God didn't want you to fail but if you confess to God that you missed the mark ( sinned) he is faithful to forgive and don't let anyone tell you otherwise because God's word is the authority and God forgives. Deuteronomy 24 states that one is not to go back and remarry a previous spouse which shows that this what is taught is false because God does not contradict himself ever.

I'm sorry for my bad english, but I need help. Pray for my marriage, my wife is divorcing me. We have been married almost four years, but I was unfaithful, selfish and worldly and away from Crist. All this made us to part and since July live in separate houses. And now she wants a divorce also. I truly regretted, I am gathering and handing me the work of God, I am also trying to evangelize and win souls for God. I need help. I can not speak English but appreciate too much if send me an email for me (elton.melo.santos@gmail.com) or call me (whatsapp - 5585986817703). Please, save my marriage. You are my ultimate hope in the earth. Thank!

tarantual...STOP being emotional and read the bible. Ezra 10. They left their foreign wives even when they had kids with them. They wanted no part of sin.

Some ask, should a remarried person leave when they know they've errored. Ezra 10 gives the answer.

John piper violates scripture. David killed Uriah and David knew he sinned. John the Baptist judged Herodias and said what he was doing was adultery and he needed to repent. Malachi 2:16 blows your whole statement out of the water. Also Romans 7:3 doesn't support your argument. The law is not done away but fulfilled by Jesus. No adulterer can enter the Kingdom. No new marriage can dissolve an existing covenant. If you have a point ,support it with scripture not emotions.

I really like a lot of John Piper's messages and most of this one, but I disagree @ 57:30   A biblical example of illegitimate marriage, which is not recognized by God and is indeed a continuous act of adultery and sin
Herod and Herodias
Mark 6:17-20    17 For it was Herod who had sent and seized John and bound him in prison for the sake of Herodias, his brother Philip's wife, because he had married her. 18 For John had been saying to Herod, “It is not lawful for you to have your brother's wife.” 19 And Herodias had a grudge against him and wanted to put him to death. But she could not, 20 for Herod feared John, knowing that he was a righteous and holy man, and he kept him safe. When he heard him, he was greatly perplexed, and yet he heard him gladly.
John the Baptist lost his life and was beheaded for telling Herod that it was not lawful for him to have his brother's wife. John the Baptist didn't tell Herod to acknowledge his sinful marriage to Herodias, feel sorry about it, believe in the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world and simply move on while continuing his illegitimate marriage. No, he told him it is not lawful for him to have his brother's wife. As long as Herod kept his brother's wife, although he had married her and took Herodias as wife, it was not lawful and the marriage was illegitimate. It was a continuous act of adultery that needed to be repented of. John the Baptist was telling Herod to divorce Herodias his illegitimate wife, because she was not actually his wife, but still the wife of his brother.Illegitimate marriages are adultery. They are not valid marriages and never will be until the REAL spouse dies.

This is one of the main reasons Christians are viewed by the unbelievers as hypocrites and liars;  it is a sad fact how Christians pick and chose what Words of Christ they will obey, and which they will disregard,  doing exactly what the unbeliever does when he follows or disavows his conscience.  The Christian is the worse in how they justify remarriage even though it clearly goes against what Christ Jesus Commanded us to do - if a Christian is separated or divorced from their spouse they are not to engage in any other relationships or remarry while their spouse is living;  that Christians are to treat their marriage, whether they are together or separated/divorced,   as Christ Jesus treats His Church, His Assembly, His Body, His Bride  -  never leaving them for another relationship or marriage.  Christ Jesus'  Words are clear and easy to understand, unless through our own plans, agendas, and pride we make up excuses, and fall away from Christ's Words and Commandments;  trying  to convince ourselves and others that we are right.  The unbeliever sees Christians do this and laugh at the hypocrisy, unfortunately.  GOD'S  Plan originally was 1 husband - 1 wife {GEN 2:24;  DEUT 17:14-20}.  Christ explained to the Pharisees that Moses allowed more than 1 wife because of Israel's hard heart, their sinful nature,  but in the New Covenant, there was a return to 1 husband - 1 wife.  {1TIM3:2-4;  TITUS1:6;  EPH5:22-23; 1PET1:15-16;  MATT19:8}.  In a nutshell, if you have sinned and divorced your spouse instead of just separating (no matter what the reason is), truly repent and be washed clean in the Blood of the Lamb...if you have compounded your sin and remarried or become involved in another relationship, then you are like the Samaritan woman at the well that had 5 husbands, and the last one she was with, she was not even married to, and again you will have to repent for going against the Teachings of our LORD and Savior, and be washed clean in the Blood of the Lamb...Almighty Father have Mercy on us,  as even the Christians,  professing they are righteous,  disobey and are in rebellion against your Words...have Mercy on us Father..

Does God Join Every couple together, or do many people join themselves together outside of God's Will?

My mind on marriage and loving has been renewed. Amazing sermon.

You started out SINCERE, but you are ending this IN ADULTERY, Contrary to the Word of JESUS CHRIST...Sin perpetuates Sin and gives PERMISSION to those falling into the pit!...I am One of These WOMEN, Widowed by an Adulterous ex husband who remarried, and then came back and took my child from me and THREW ME OUT IN THE STREETS TO DIE!....and now my son is living in their home (actually MY HOME)....I was 45 when I married him and 45 when I had this child...WHAT IN GOD'S Name are you teaching?

The bible is like a puzzle and the scriptures are like puzzle pieces that should fit together, otherwise, we've lost it somewhere in the interpretation or translation. So I will discuss some arguments that have been raised that don't exactly fit with the scripture puzzle.One such argument is the one that says the exception clause “except for fornication” in matt 19:9 and matt 5:32 is derived from the Greek word “pornea” which means fornication, not adultery “moicheia,” therefore, this is referring to betrothal, such as in the case of Mary and Joseph,  and therefore doesn't apply to the context of marriage, therefore there is no exception given for divorce within the context of marriage.But this piece doesn't fit with the puzzle of scripture because we know JESUS was referring to marriage, not betrothal. This is obvious because the Pharisees were referring to the law of Moses concerning marriage in deut 24:1-4. But He felt the need to refine it and made the exception only adultery, because there were two schools of thought among the Jewish leaders who interpreted this verse differently. The school of Hillel was very liberal and focused on the first half of Deut 24:1, and believed they could divorce their wife if she displeased them in any way. But the school of Shammai focused in the last part of the verse, and defined unclean only as adultery. So Jesus made it clear in Matt 19:9 that a man could only divorce his wife and remarry without being considered an adulterer if his wife committed fornication (the Greek word porneia, which includes adultery, incest, bestiality etc.).Another reason why this interpretation of the exception clause is incorrect, when they say it relates only to engaged people is because, although the word “porneia” was used to refer to fornication, it also refers to all manner of sexual immorality, including adultery. Jesus used “porneia” instead of “moicheia” to cover all bases of sexual immorality, including incest, beastiality etc. as grounds for divorce. Another reason why you know it's referring to marriage, not just betrothal, is because the disciples reacted by saying "if this is the case between a husband and wife, it's better not to marry," which indicates that JESUS was talking about marriage because he says not everyone can accept the saying that "it's better not to marry." matt 19:1-11.

There are marriages that are not FROM GOD. There are marriages from the DEVIL. Let me tell you the story of a woman in my family to make you understand. This woman prayed to have a husband, but the Lord told him to wait, but she did not understand. Then her friend introduced her to a man and inspired by the Devil, she said that this is her husband, and the poor woman believed her: she thought it was definitely the Devil who told her to wait. Then she married this man although she was not really in love with him, she was just tired of being alone. She had children but her marriage ended badly, in divorce. She repented because she had not trusted the Lord, she had not wanted to wait. Then she asked the Lord to send her someone else, and the Lord told her that HE HEARD HER.

I have been in a physically abusive marriage for 8 years. Been strangled thrice, punched, abandoned for 2 yrs and so on. All these years I put up, believing it would all change. Gave up on praying for my marriage. I was forced to stay at home so I wont have any finances even though I have a Masters in engineering. Now he's divorcing me. I have a child and Im out of my country. What can I do. I am done. Ive got auto immune disease bcoz if this stress.