Heretic confronts John MacArthur during sermon!!

I still do believe in miracles....esp when a vile creature like me turns to Jesus ..repented of my sins and accepted Jesus as the only Way, thhe Only Truth and the Only Life...I dont beleive in miracles being peddled tho....or tongues put on display...

https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/02/06/an-earthquake-redemption-part-1/#more-26627

https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/02/12/an-earthquake-redemption-part-2/#more-26648

+Keith Thompson I can respect that this is what you see this as, obviously you stand firm in what you believe and I am not here to change what you believe. What I do want to pull your attention to is firstly the name of this video, but even more than that the description of this video.

I believe that a true Christian (I'm not saying you are not one) would know that this is not how we were called to be, nor speak of brethren. Now I understand that you do not see this man as a brother, but the fact is that this man simply rebuked John on what the bible states. Albeit a matter of cessationism or continuationism is truly not really the part up for discussion, what is though, is the fact that this man came to tell John that according to the bible he is wrong in claiming that what Jesus said He would send was only for a select few.
Now seeing as you are a calvanist I do understand that you do believe in certain people receiving something while others don't, but in this matter it is a man reading a promise given to the disciples, referencing Pentecost and speaking from his own live and the lives of many that have a relationship with God that results in an overflow of God's presence in the form of (according to the rebuker) spiritual gifts.

With the scene set now for you, I want to ask you how you can, see from simply reading the bible (yes I'm stealing those 4 words from Francis Chan (also a Calvanist)) that this man's message was not only (as you claim) false, but to go as far as to say it is heresy and what really bothers me "demonic" as your description says.
The explanation for this must be either 1 of two things:
1. You either have the gift of discernment of spirit
2. The gift of discernment does not exist and you called a man who has come to faith demon possessed.
To the second possibility (which I truly hope is not correct) I have to point you to the unforgivable sin. You know it, don't become guilty of it (then again I believe that Calvanists don't believe that they can be guilty of this, but what if this was then evident of you not being "predestined" and all you almost 2 million views to attempt to build the kingdom was in vain?)

Now the question stands whether either of them is right but as I've already stated I'm not going to choose sides. I'm not going to say if I'm a Calvanist or an Armenianist or a Molinist or an open Theist. I won't state if I'm for cessationism or continuationism, but what I will say is this. IF The gift of discernment HAS CEASED (as you claim it has) THEN YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY NOT SAY THAT ONE MAN IS DEMON POSSESSED AND THE OTHER IS NOT. Surely you will say but know him by his fruit to which I say, the only fruit we see from the video is a clash of passion and no true spiritual fruit even from the rest of it after the man was removed and John humiliated the man, that too is not fruit of The Spirit. The man approached it wrong and John reacted wrong (according to fruit baring behavior) but without discernment you cannot make a statement like that.


So my entire post is summarized in this one sentence: PLEASE BE ENCOURAGED TO CHANGE THE DESCRIPTION OF YOUR VIDEO, TO SOMETHING LIKE (Opposing man confronts brother Macarthur during one of his sermons, or Charismatic man confronts brother Macarthur during one of his sermons)

Please note that not once did I say you need to change your view on anything, I did not say what my stance is on anything and anyone making assumptions on what I believe will also only be creating their own dogma which they will then of course defend even if they are wrong in assumptions. I commend you on running this Youtube channel for the last 7 years, and also on your closing in on 2 million views. Thanks for never monetising and keep posting Gospel videos, just please reconsider what you call people, even if they are muslim or budhist, maybe they were "predestined" and just haven't realised it yet and are searching for answers in the wrong places (like Paul before Ananias and Damascus).

Well... this man don't has to be a heretic, but what he did here is very disrespectful! Where is his self-controll? Is this the way to confront a faithful Bible teaching pastor? Was he driven by the Holy Spirit to interrupt the sermon like this? I think not. This is an impulsive act of a non-disciplined angry man.

the feeling i get when i watch this is that this yelling guy somehow feels that what macarthur teaches on cessationism is actually true, which it, of course , is , and that he just doesn't like it, and so he responds with such ridiculous emotionalism which coincides perfectly with the emotionalism rampant in so-called charismatic circles.

even if John Mc Arthur is wrong on this it does not make him a false teacher. There are many doctrinal issues that we can disagree on and still serve God together. It is an open hand issue. A closed hand issue would be for example that Jesus is the Son of God and the only way to the Father. But this is one of those things that is open for dabate like many other things. In our church their are a couple of such disagreements and it is ok and it does not divide us.

what about this man that shows he's demonic?? The man gave the warning that macarthur is grieving the Holy Spirit and macarthur teachings are wrong and he needs to repent!! how is this demonic?? seriously!!! this is clearly from God to warn macarthur and if macarthur does not take heed, the wrath of the Living God will fall on him, believe me dear you dont want to feel God's wrath. if you have sense macarthur take heed and repent. the Holy Spirit still gives gifts of the Spirit!!! and if you believed that you wont need no 'human security system' the Holy Spirit is all the security you need!! You are shutting out the Holy Spirit from your congregation... He gave you a warning thru this man....the next time the Lord acts may not be a warning!!!

Why doesnt this so called profit go yell at Joel Olsteen , or Joyce Myers or Benny Hinn , this guy attacked McArthur because a demon spirit

Demonic? I thought that those things have ceassed since the canon was completed. also God does not give the charism of discerments of spirits any longer according to your teacher MacArthur.

He's not demonic he's Scottish!

What a lunatic! You don't call out someone who preaches something different that's theological. John MacArthur doesn't teach anything that goes against fundamental Christianity. I used to be a Charismatic that's all fake. The lies I heard about John MacArthur from Charismatics is outrageous. One was he'd been married 3 times, that's an outright lie. Another that he's a Freemason. That's also a lie. If you have to lie about people who disagree with you that shows you're not in the truth.

WHAT A TITLE?!?!?!

"Heretic"? Why is this man a heretic? For confronting MacArthur about non believing in gifts? He's right 'cause Bible never teaches what MacArthur preaches about this topic. Now, does that make MacArthur a false preacher? No.

But the title of this video is TOO subjective! He was rebuked for not believing the whole Word and teaching people that supernatural gifts don't operate nowadays. That's one of the weakness of the Reformed movement (i am NOT a Charismatic, btw). MacArthur doesn't have to agree, but at least he was warned.

I see both of these men as brothers in Christ. Flawed? Absolutely! But still...

the man was a out of his place to do that. but john macarthur is partially heretic for preaching cessationism which has no biblical base at all.

John McArthur has a lot of false teachings

Gee - somebody actually got John M to shut up! The heckler should get a medal from Obama!

(I think they took away the wrong heretic!) LOL

I felt chills in my spirit when I heard this man deliver this word to JM . JM should had jump for joy knowing that whom the Lord loves He chastises.

I just can't understand what that guy is saying.